How Ukrainians online talk about the cost of staying

Write an autobiography. Who you are, what you can do, education, skills. Bad habits, relatives in Russia if any.

So because I have relatives in Russia they might let me go? I think it's the opposite, they'll send me straight to the front

Recruits write autobiographies in an organised way, on approved forms, but yes, you must state education and speciality, because it's one of the key fields unit representatives look at when choosing people. Relatives abroad (not just in Russia) mean a 90% chance of not getting training abroad.

Have you passed the ВЛК already, what status did you get? If it's fit for service in the rear (abbreviated), combat units won't take you.

They wrote "fit", although my eyesight is -6 and I was told that used to be "conditionally fit"

Eyesight -12 is still fit. Below that they might discharge you, but who am I kidding. The ВЛК is a brutal sham. Did anyone have blood taken for a general analysis? Our whole army is a fucking Soviet relic, and we're very lucky the katsaps are an even bigger Soviet relic, which is why they aren't yet walking the streets of fortress Lviv.

"Fit" and "fit for the rear" both sound like fit, but in fact these two verdicts decide your fate in the army better than any recruiter or ТЦК chief.

All I can advise is to find a hole in the fence and run. I bolted and I advise you to as well.

Most aren't searched for, there aren't the resources, and they won't break doors. People who go AWOL usually get caught through stupidity or carelessness, somewhere on the street etc.

The fact that you can even write here is fucking progress. My acquaintance got packed off on Thursday, everything taken from him; the only contact was when he could shout something out of the window to his wife, who waited for him outside the ТЦК for three days.

The words are fine, but why the fuck gather two dozen people, whose work is REALLY needed right now, as extras? He could have just filmed himself quickly shaking their hands and then reading the text against cars driving off to calls.

Honestly, you no longer know what to nitpick

At my mum's flat it's +7, the emergency crew has been on its way for 3 days. So is it me who doesn't know what to nitpick, or Klitschko who doesn't know what to do with himself?

Well, there will always be someone who gets fixed last, who's less lucky. He said almost all, not all; how do you know whether your mum's building is officially heated or not? It's just that before this you weren't talking about your mum but giving advice on how to shoot videos, which looked rather odd

In a flat on Rusanivka it's 5 degrees. Radiators cold, no hot water either.

Yeah, "almost". My building is considered connected to heating, but the radiators are either completely icy (usually at night, when it's -17) or slightly warmer than zero, purely so the pipes don't freeze. In fact there's no heating, on paper there is

What Klitschko is responsible for: […] everything good […] What Klitschko is NOT responsible for: […] everything bad […] Instead of preparing the city, with the second-largest budget after the state's, for winter and poking the authorities for being losers, he sat on his arse.

The situation is that Klitschko isn't the best mayor, but you shouldn't pour shit on him, simply out of self-respect. Are you all damn blind that this country's government is busy shifting responsibility onto others? Instead of holding Zelensky to account, you all sit and bitch about the city's mayor. […] The city's problems derive from the fuck-up in protecting the energy system. You'd have to be a moron not to understand that.

Okay. Why did Zhytomyr and Kharkiv manage to keep infrastructure (critical at least) powered with 22 times (90 billion Kyiv, about 4 billion Zhytomyr) and 4 times (20 billion Kharkiv) fewer hryvnias respectively? Kyiv has money up to the roof, but instead of bonuses for energy workers they're relaying pavements here (the most obvious example).

Except that in almost all buildings newer than 2005-2010 and high-rises, the heating pumps are in the building itself and they are, surprise, electric. And there's no electricity now even in the most trouble-free districts for at least 10-12 hours a day. So no heating either.

Vitalya, time for you to pack for home, to your homeland in Israel

Seriously though. What's a mayor needed for in good weather if the weather does all his work for him? It's in bad weather that the mayor needs to get off his arse and work for the people, he doesn't sit in that chair just to warm his butt

Maybe someday an empty fridge will beat your TV, because the functioning of municipal services is the mayor's direct responsibility, and in Kyiv it's all very sad; hee-hee-ha-ha on the internet won't help Kyivans get to work without injuries

Responsibility for what? Supplying air defence with ammunition isn't the mayor's jurisdiction.

What's air defence got to do with it? Embezzling the budget, demolishing historic monuments, handing out building permits to pals, etc.

Ensuring cogeneration units are installed (at least those donated for free in 2022, for which they haven't even started the paperwork), buying mobile boiler houses, setting up heating points; you could start with that

He's supposed to run the CHP plants instead of DTEK and Ukrenergo? Maybe the Trypillia power plant is his area of responsibility too?

As I understood it, he meant that you shouldn't hate on him for bad weather and for the shelling, since he has no influence on that. And it makes sense. We should hate on the russkies for everything

Of course people complain when there's ice on the roads and you fall and break your knees. In fact, it's the mayor's job to solve such problems

And where did all these people defending Klitschko in the comments come from? Is it some new talking-points manual, because he's at odds with Zelensky and you have to pretend he's a good mayor?

I remembered him in summer, when the power was cut because people used air conditioners I remember him when I walk stuffy streets with no shade I remember him when I walk in the centre and see wrecked historic buildings I remember him when I ride in stuffy fucked-up marshrutkas I remember him when the hot water is cut for the whole summer I remember him when pipes burst in autumn I remember him when hundreds of millions of hryvnias are allocated yet again for the Shuliavka overpass Faggot

The phrase was taken out of context, watch the whole speech

Yesterday's schoolkid has decided what 30-40-year-olds know and don't🥴.

I read your posts. A 20-year-old clown who travels abroad and is already looking for ways to fuck off to Sweden for good

I was planning to go to Sweden before the war :/ Couldn't find anything else to nitpick, mister bought-account? Learned much French?

are there russkies pushing the ТЦК topic? yes are the videos they use real? real should we now keep quiet about the ТЦК because the russkies might pick it up? no the russkies can pick up any fuck-up and blunder of our government, but that doesn't mean that when you start talking about it you're an enemy and a psyops guy. So we talk about the ТЦК's atrocities. Empty accounts are used by our own government too. And something you didn't think of: people are afraid to write about ТЦК atrocities from their main accounts because the SBU will come for them. (as it already has for bloggers and ordinary people)

Oh, another one. You forgot to hide your history, bro, you defend Russian strikes on an English-language sub :)

Interesting guy, churns out comments on Reddit like it's his job

Not risky at all. Go with God and don't come back. It'll be better there, here there's war and the ТЦК. You don't need it. When the war comes to Europe, you'd better defend it. There everything is for the people, and here it's corruption and cattle

In a month only one of your two options will remain. The choice should be obvious ;) More and more countries are tightening temporary protection, today I read they plan to send refugees to Rwanda so as not to breed them at home — are you sure you want that? Jump on the last carriage! Without the language it'll probably be hard to get a job, especially without experience. But you can always pick strawberries in Belgium!

Even if the war ends (and it won't in the coming years) nothing good will be here. Lawlessness and corruption will stay after the war too. Leave while you're young. At 23 you'll adapt easily and learn the language (any). I think by 30 you'll have citizenship of some normal country. So look for a place with a future.

I have commercial work experience and try to keep up with modern tech. If I knew clearly that during the war I wouldn't be thrown into a trench but my professional experience would be fully used, I'd be much calmer.

Yeah, sure. We look for people for months even for simple positions, at normal salaries, because demand is growing; salary expectations in the junior-middle segment are back at 2021 levels. Of those who can do anything, only the most idealistic will work for 1.5k, most want 2.5+ while not knowing the subject area (those who do have long been working)

Maybe we live in different realities, but in my case IT people worked for 20k under blackmail and threats. And electronics engineers had their reservations drop because of countless "bugs", after which they were bused off at the factory gate the same day. And now "there's nobody to work".

Decide for yourself what you want in life. Just one thing: don't count on the war ending. If you can't do anything useful here (and don't want to learn), and you're afraid to defend, then run and find yourself a country that doesn't mobilise during a war :D

Flee the concentration camp while you can

why Europe? sooner or later they'll send men back here, because they're interested in Ukrainians specifically fighting Russia. at heart they're the same imperialists as the moskals and the yanks, just more politically correct. there's no reason at all to go to Lyakhostan (and bring them economic benefit there). you can go to South America.

Yes, there is a point. I recently made the same choice, also 21 and also Munich via the airport. […] It's not as scary and bad here as most commenters write, all the prospects are here, and ordinary Germans are still incredibly supportive on a personal level, much more than Ukrainians in Ukraine. […] The main thing is to learn the language practically and then everything will be fine with work, and while you study the state will fully pay for food, transport, entertainment and a flat with utilities, + there will be social workers to help with all the documents.

Munich does accept. I say this because I live here and have a friend who works at a refugee camp. But there are very few places. There isn't even enough ordinary housing, the highest rents for ordinary housing in all of Germany, never mind refugee camps.

No, there is no point going. It won't be easier, and you'll get a pile of other problems typical for migrants. […] So if you want to "sit out the war", the best option is to buy 30-50 ares of land, a house in a village (even in Zhytomyr region, they have power almost all the time), buy a little tractor and calmly grind money and resources in the holiest peace... […] Or else go to the ends of the earth, quickly burn all your savings, end up with nothing and work for pennies at McDonald's like a slave, poor and homeless... But you'll give everything to the Germans!!!

Go no matter what, kid, don't listen to these sufferers, you'll make it!

Why the fuck would it be? A pile of such dreamers leave, blow their money, and then either mum sends money so her boy can come back, or they start shoplifting and scraping by on odd jobs. To really live well you need to be a damn good specialist, and in Germany also know the language. You won't just leap into millionaires with experience as a Nova Poshta operator and an Aurora cashier

Anywhere, but there's a point while you can. Don't hesitate, or you'll be tearing your hair out if you fuck up this chance. As they say, you can always come back

If you don't mind becoming a slave of the state, stay. If you do, go. It's very simple. Which country can be decided later, because at least you'll have the option to change it.

You and those like you, whom none of this concerns and who are scared... fuck off to some country N, and the Russian faggots will seize all of Ukraine, and in a conditional half a year/year they'll go further into Europe. Where will you run to then???

That's if they even give that refugee status, because back in the day Bosnians were kicked out of temporary protection into the cold without anyone batting an eye. It's not Syrians, who you can't just deport.

Of course they'll use Ukraine as a transit. Why would they need a beggar country with an average of 500 bucks when nearby there are lots of countries with an average of 1,000 and more and better welfare?

For countries where there is nothing to eat, problems with drinking water, work, dysentery and diseases, Ukraine will be paradise even for less than 500 bucks.

They won't see 500 bucks. Not all Ukrainians here have such a salary, migrants even less so. And before the war I didn't see queues of migrants. I did see them to EU countries. So I very much doubt it. At most they'll adapt here a bit and then flee to richer countries.

Yes. Men are either at the front or hiding. You can't find repairmen or builders. I suspect it's no better in other conventionally "male" fields.

It doesn't, but the oligarchy needs stunning progress and endless growth above all else

I don't really want to put up with this; if it really happens I'll just move to another country.

I don't condemn migrants but the political leadership; migrants seek a better fate in Ukraine, but living next to them isn't a better fate for me, no hypocrisy. They plan to bring in not white Christians but coloured Muslims.

Let the population and economy shrink. Better that than the genocide of our ethnos by replacement

The economy exists for people, not people for the economy. Ukraine is a people, not an economy. If Ukrainians become a national minority in it, it will be Ukraine only on paper. […] > Pensioners can't survive, there's no working population, the budget is in deficit. Add to that a large number of war invalids and their families who need support. […] Let them work.

> don't want to live in a multicultural paradise > want to move to another one with my own culture There's a proper pile of shit in your head, sir.

Share what? If all the videos are AI, and a Reddit nickname's own opinion is worth nothing. Your evidence isn't evidence, you're manipulating, there are very few of them, they gave 88 permits and only 14 came.

Just a reminder that single videos of busification in 2023 were also enemy psyops.

Mykola into the bus and off to zero, and Ahmed to his job, and Ahmed must get free housing and food, plus a salary of 800 euros. Such are Ukraine's realities today.

And would it be easier for you with Mykola at zero but without Ahmed?

I think Indians would still have to be lured to Ukraine; they aren't so poor and stupid as to come to a war for a salary of three hundred bucks.

You need to come at it from the other side. Why wouldn't they come? Given the state of our economy, the endless war and mobilisation, what will businesses do in that case? Not everyone is allowed to reserve workers, soon the rules will be even stricter, it's hard for Ukrainians to travel between cities looking for work, a huge number of young people under 25, who work best at such enterprises, have left. Why wouldn't there be migrants?

It's all bot content to destabilise the population and breed hatred. The injection is relatively recent, it'll pass soon

There have always been migrants: in the 90s loads at markets and in under-the-table jobs, many different students at universities, etc. It's just more painful now, because there are far fewer native people, the war, busification and other shit. And the cattle in the country's leadership at every level don't help with proper communication. Anyway, we'll have to see in a couple of years; right now it's clear there won't be millions of them.

The point is that back then they studied/worked alongside us, and now instead of us.

Your suspicions are right. The topic of migrants and fanning fears about them is a topic of right-wing organisations in Europe, which are often inspired by Russia. […] Same with Ukrainian society. I'd formulate the message like this: "the Ukrainian man goes to the front, and instead of him they bring in Bangladeshis who fuck Ukrainian girls and breed here". I.e. the message must rock society, be based on a real problem, and be emotionally embellished […] And lo and behold, you can see this exact message in the comments here :)

My main point is that if you claim "migrants are being brought in en masse", show numbers. One of the links literally says "10 migrants were invited". Not 10 thousand, but 10. […] The modern economy of countries, for example Europe, cannot work without a constant inflow of migrants, how about that? Ask economists if you don't believe me.

And??? At my plant they've already brought the first batch, in autumn we expect a second and bigger one, and 25-year-old lads aren't given reservations). The comrades don't speak Ukrainian, not even Russian.

What do we do if most of the workforce has gone abroad or is fighting at the front? Do you have better options than immigration? Force all women to work 5 jobs to meet the state's economic needs? Send girls to the mines and building sites too? I understand women also work physically demanding jobs, but most aren't suited to them at all and we won't fill the labour need with them. Fucking russian bots

I'd rather work in a mine than live next to migrants with a wild rate of rapes.

Oh fuck, the UAE is 80% migrants, those same Indians, and where are the rapes there? Maybe the problem isn't migrants but how you use them?

Who else would spread russian psyops that ignores our circumstances and rocks the state? And nobody who disagrees with me has come up with another way to fill the labour need

Just do as normal countries do: you came and you only work, no paths to citizenship for labour migrants, none at all, the slightest breach of the law and deportation + a lifetime entry ban, that's it, they should be here exclusively as seasonal workers

Well, overall there won't be as many as they paint, few will want to come to a country where you can drop dead from russian rockets before you reach work. But will assimilation work? I think not, we have different religion and culture. Coexist and find a compromise? Questionable, but probably; a lot depends on where the migrant is from and how much he respects the country and people he wants to work with...

Assimilation depends not on cultural similarity but on the environment a child grows up in. If a child grew up surrounded by Ukrainian, studied at a Ukrainian school, had Ukrainian friends all through growing up, they probably won't particularly identify with another country's culture

Lolfuck. Indians are like cockroaches and you've probably never crossed paths with them in life. If they like it here, there'll be no more room for Ukrainians. Especially with the current demographics, where our young and active population has bolted and shrunk catastrophically. Those Indians will simply take everything, university places, working trades, jobs like barista/shop assistant/cleaner.

Indians may be even worse. Moskals are bad, of course, but Indians are like cockroaches. Wherever they go they don't want to fit into society, crime levels rise because of them. Something like gypsies, to put it briefly.

Well, it's not Indians who invaded Ukraine and are destroying it, in case you didn't notice...

Oh my God, as if you were born yesterday.. They're testing the reaction. They throw out info about 30, then raise it to 20 and everyone will be pleased that "it's not 30 after all". Otherwise people would be outraged at 20 too How many times have we been through this, and again everyone steps on the same rake...

Raise to 20? That would be quite nice, because in Lviv it's already 23 hryvnias, and only if paid with a special card or app; cash is still 30. You say they're testing the reaction, but I think the people-elected, devil-kicked representatives of all Kyivans won't allow prices below holy Galicia.

The monthly pass price is stupid. Totally disproportionate. If you take the 46 trips, it's just about acceptable. But it would be nice if this price at least included transfers. Because you might change to a trolleybus, ride only 3 stops, and it already hits your pocket

Have you lot in Kyiv overeaten on fish soup, pardon me? In Bila Tserkva marshrutkas are 20 hryvnias, and salaries are fucking not Kyiv ones.

Our marshrutkas are already 20 hryvnias. With the increase they'll all become 50.

30 hryvnias to ride the metro and trams begged from the Poles, how mighty. I predict people will ride without tickets and revenue and profit will fall. I'm not against a rise. But sitting in a tram that's +50 in summer and leaks down the walls when it rains, for 6.50, ok. For 30? Now the optimists will come running to say that in a couple of years new vehicles and routes will appear, but let's not lie to ourselves.

The problem is that Kyiv's public transport has been run into the ground for years. Prices are high because costs are high, costs are high because of low efficiency and the war. Now it's a death spiral where the lack of money worsens public transport (fewer routes, longer intervals, smaller fleet, shoddy repairs...) and then when the money runs out completely prices rise again and it all continues.

1. Didn't know Warsaw had such a cheap pass 2. In the EU transport is very expensive, even relative to high salaries it comes out unpleasant 3. For me personally the prices are fine 4. I'm for market prices in all spheres (utility tariffs etc.), in transport they can be a bit lower. But right now 6.5 hryvnias (with 50 trips) is very little. But I understand many people will be unhappy.

In Kyiv, with the unlimited pass at 4,785 hryvnias and an average salary (35k on work sites, 43k official data), it comes to 11.1-13.7%, which is much more expensive. By the cost of 1 trip, 0.06-0.07% (taking 25 hryvnias per trip)

Now compare that with the average salary in Europe. Spending 12% purely on transport is, in my opinion, a fucking lot. And that's not counting those whose salary is below average

That's called it's expensive to be poor.

There are no more transfers in Lviv. And before they only allowed 1-2 transfers, not "any number" as you say. Private operators didn't want to introduce the Leokart system but the city forced them, literally said "you don't install it, you don't run". It took about half a year, so I think it can be introduced in Kyiv too.

As for private operators, it'll be very hard here. And the authorities don't really want to do it themselves […] I'm not saying it's impossible, but it will take a few years. Provided someone takes it on, because with our city authorities they're more likely to just not bother.

Marshrutkas in Kyiv at 15-20 hryvnias? In Zaporizhzhia it's 25, and that's considering the average salary in Zaporizhzhia and Kyiv is a radically different amount.

How lucky other cities are with their mayors! Urban planning is all good, streets are clean, rubbish is collected on time...

> Kyiv will stop being 3rd in the world for traffic jams […] Let's start with you stopping broadcasting green propaganda and checking sources. Because the site everyone refers to doesn't have Ukraine AT ALL. Admit you're a dumbass who believes any nonsense.

> For some reason Kyiv has never been lucky with mayors Mmmm. And do you happen to remember who elected these mayors every time?

That's why writing "Kyiv was unlucky with mayors" is nonsense. You should honestly write: "Unfortunately the layer of dumbasses among Kyivans is very large, so they keep electing devils as mayor".

Much less often than a year ago, especially in the evening or when the bus is packed. In any case you can look out the window: if you see an inspector at the stop, get off and wait for the next bus.

Kyiv's administration has lost its mind. […] The fare is inadequate given the quality of our metro and citizens' income. […] And the monthly pass is absurdly expensive. […] 3,656 hryvnias. What the fuck is this? […] For comparison, Scandinavian countries are known for expensive metros. A monthly pass in Stockholm converted into hryvnias costs ~~4500~~ (UPD: checked, now it's about 4,900). […] incomes in Stockholm are much higher than Kyivans'. […] This is fucked up.

Rich countries encourage public transport so people don't drive in the city and whine that roads need widening and parking spaces need scraping together somewhere. But here, when an ordinary person doesn't have enough for the metro, he'll have to eat less but still buy the same metro tickets.

First: until September I'll use the old trips. Second: I'll look for a job closer to home (I quit my job, but not because of transport). Third: if it's further from home, preferably with a route where I could buy a scooter and ride to work and back. Seriously, I'd rather buy a scooter in instalments for 15,000-20,000 hryvnias than burn money. At least I'll have a scooter. Plan B, if everything fails: I know a student.

I'm already pretty frugal, I do laundry and power-hungry things after 23:00 when the 50% tariff applies. I eat modestly, pasta, buckwheat, today there was fillet on discount at Silpo. I don't smoke. I thought of getting a pet but I'll wait for now and see how expenses go. I see you've already optimised at your place 😁

Because municipal transport shouldn't be profitable. Its purpose is to promote the city's economic development, especially in a metropolis

What's profit got to do with it? It should earn enough for its own maintenance and development. If transport doesn't pay for itself, it promotes nothing at all, it just carries pensioners and schoolkids at the expense of working people and falls apart in the process.

It shouldn't. Transport in a metropolis is subsidised by definition, because it serves other goals. That's exactly why private companies don't usually build it

Klitschko's parks and bridges have to get built somehow During the war

Or Klitschko's friends' pockets. Kharkiv manages somehow

That's the thing, Kharkiv manages nothing, it's bankrupt.

And I'm against forcibly mobilising anyone. Fuck you all, life is worth more than some ephemeral "state". […] Not enough people willing to fight have gathered, ok. Then such a state doesn't deserve to exist if nobody wants to defend it.

I'm against too. Conditions should be made so that a person goes by himself. It shouldn't be that you take your passport and leave as a refugee. You don't fulfil any duties, you have basic rights like any person. P.S. There is no state in the world where enough volunteers can be gathered to defend it. That's why states invented mobilisation

If you think this is an "ephemeral state" that "doesn't deserve to exist", then go to Moscow, you fucking faggots

How? The likes of you, right after telling everyone "those who want to be Russians can go to Moscow and leave Ukraine alone...", simply closed the borders. I.e. you say "go away, nobody's keeping you", and when they answer "ok, I'm leaving" you immediately switch to "no no, not allowed, how can you go to Russia? You can't!".

I just don't understand, our constitution clearly states that everyone is equal and there can be no gender discrimination. Also Ukraine isn't just fighting somewhere, it's fighting for its existence. In Israel this question doesn't even exist, all genders fight equally, and that's while they don't face the question of whether Israel survives Women should be mobilised, even if not into the infantry, not to the front, not as drivers, but at least fill all the non-combat posts

Which unit will you send your wife/sister/daughter/mother to?

Which unit will you send your brother/son/father/grandfather/uncle to?

Not only do the vagina-Ukrainians not serve, instead of working in the country or at least spending money on taxes here, they left to freeload on Bürgergeld

It reminds me of, let's say, "spiteful" feminism. E.g. when society punishes men and women differently for the same crimes, cannibalistic feminism demands raising women's punishments to men's level. Normal people just demand softening punishments, abolishing "victimless crimes" etc. Here we face petty machismo, "let's put the broads in the trenches too", instead of what normal people say: "people belong to themselves", not to the bosses, the homeland, etc. Meh...

If it's specifically about women of childbearing age who haven't given birth yet, I can't help but support it.

mmmm, it smells so much of the nazi "hero mother" policy

I don't support mobilising anyone. Neither women nor men.

Reznikov is a devil, but the idea itself isn't bad. Those against mobilising women, what are your arguments? From the Constitution's point of view men and women have equal rights. So duties should be equal too. I'd especially like to hear the arguments of those women who for 4.5 years, rolling between Europe and Ukraine, actively supported the mobilisation of men on social media and generally wanted to fight to the 1991 borders. With other people's hands, of course.

I'm against, because my wife has been raising 2 kids for the 5th year, carries the household, works, sometimes helps me, because a soldier's pay is less than hers as a kindergarten teacher. If they start mobilising women, the ТЦК cocks will drag them into the buses by force too and hold them in basements and who knows what else? And the kids where? An orphanage? Or sold abroad? It's enough that at 22 I did something stupid and didn't leave, but went into the army. I've talked to those who came to us via the bus and the ТЦК basement; they have little motivation to do anything for the country, let alone for the current government!

I wrote about that below. It's about young childless women who follow the principle "I live for myself". Obviously your wife doesn't fit that description, having had children.

Mobilising men with various illnesses just because they are male, while there are countless healthy women, is neither efficient nor fair.

I don't believe there will be equal conditions; there will be harassment, rapes, condescending attitudes, harder promotion due to sexism, lack of necessary hygiene products, etc. I.e. if the army is a lousy place for men, for women it will be either twice as hard or fucking hell, at least if they just start busing everyone equally. Equal conditions on paper and equal conditions in practice are not the same thing. So my opinion is: first truly equalise the conditions, then think about mobilising women. Edit: Unless you make purely female units, maybe it would be ok, but there must be hygiene products and painkillers, because sometimes it hurts so much that if I had something to shoot myself with and no painkillers, I would have

You're funny, of course; don't you understand what ailments men are mobilised with? The cross-eyed, the lame, heart patients, stroke survivors, and everyone somehow doesn't give a fuck, but periods, yes, that's a reason! I'd have had no objection at all, but when they mobilised an acquaintance of mine who had shoved 20 nerve blocks into his back just to walk, your arguments about periods are, to put it mildly, funny.

Fully confirm. I saw women assault troopers and a woman artillerist with my own eyes. They had no problems at all. But I did come across some very nasty female medics with the philosophy "why are you whining, I'm a woman and I don't whine, and you do". In the army everything depends on upbringing and discipline, not sex.

I think for former politicians there should be mobilisation after 60, and definitely into the 425th assault battalion. The four-eyed moron waited until he turned 60 and started crowing about mobilisation.

I'm categorically against mobilising women who have at least one child or are pregnant I'm also categorically against restricting the exit of pregnant women or women with at least 1 child. BUT I consider radically unfair the situation where a childless 25-year-old woman can travel freely, live her best life, carry no burdens, go to work in the EU and Dubai, swim in the ocean with tags #FairytaleLife, while her 25-year-old peer, classmate or brother must immediately go to pay his debt to the homeland, risk everything, or be useful to society in some other way to get a reservation and be locked in for an unknown number of years. Everyone should be useful now. If we've locked in the boys, we should lock in the girls too; let them work here, there aren't enough people, support the economy, work in critical infrastructure and defence enterprises. Nobody will put girls in assault regiments, but there should be some adequate social justice.

I consider mobilisation for not having children radically unfair and a crime against the female reproductive system.

This post reminds me of those classic Ukrainian questions, "why don't you drink (alcohol)?" When what isn't and shouldn't be the norm is presented as the norm, while the normal people for some reason have to justify themselves. You left, so sit quietly over there and don't bother those living at home ._.

I don't understand your aggression or why someone should keep quiet. Wanting a better future for yourself is normal, and it can be here or in another country etc., it depends only on the person and their views

I never wanted to leave at all, I love Ukraine, I love living here. Contract 18-24 and into battle. Being a pilot is pretty good, I found a good brigade. I'm 20, I planned to fight since 19. A year of thinking, I made up my mind. No regrets

The 18-23 law was passed when I was 21 (almost 22). I thought and hesitated for a long time, but... I have a good job with good prospects. All my acquaintances abroad do physical work (not great for my health) or ask their parents for money. I took all this as an investment: higher risk = higher return (however strange that sounds in the context of staying in Ukraine). So I'm 23 now and still in Ukraine, growing, donating and believing in a better future

I myself left Ukraine three months ago, I'm in Poland for now and have no clue what to do next. Yes, it's quiet here, no shelling (I'm from Sumy district, I have something to compare with), but damn, something's off🫠 […] I've even started to understand that phrase "home is better" a bit, and right now I'd gladly be back in my village near the city, but there are lots of buts... […] For now I'm seriously thinking of travelling a bit and going back to Ukraine, because there would actually be quite a few pluses to that too

You write as if pissing yourself and running away is the norm, and not doing it requires some special reasons.

Not everyone wants to die for the motherland. There is nothing wrong with that.

You don't have to die, you have to live. But not everyone has one. Nothing wrong with that, let everyone decide, it's just that the question is posed manipulatively.

A pointless question. Why don't you cheat on your girlfriends? More partners is more interesting. And if you learn to hide the cheating there won't be consequences. It's simply immoral. But as with cheating, I don't judge you or anyone else. Only myself

I left at 22 and came back. I work remotely, earn decently, it would be enough for a comfortable life in most countries. […] After a few months it just got very boring and I decided to come back […] So far I don't regret anything, I live a better life in Ukraine, but what happens in a few years is hard to say.

I'm 21. Saving money to move. 🤷 Actually I could have left at 17 when the war had just started, but I stayed because UKRAINE ABOVE ALL. And now, after all the fuckery inside, NABU, Fedorov, I just earn as much as I can, which is why I'm still sitting here, so that later I can go to some normal country instead of slaving away in some Poland or Germany.